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	<title>Comments on: You May Also Be at Risk for This, Don’t Let the FTC Shut You Down, Part 2</title>
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		<title>By: Bazri</title>
		<link>http://fromthedeskofdavid.com/blog/other-stuff/ftc-shut-you-down-2/comment-page-1#comment-765</link>
		<dc:creator>Bazri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the heads up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the heads up.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://fromthedeskofdavid.com/blog/other-stuff/ftc-shut-you-down-2/comment-page-1#comment-758</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen,

As I said in response to your other similar message, the FTC&#039;s actions seem to show that they feel that existing guidelines are inadequate to go after Internet Marketers.

Otherwise I would think they&#039;d be spending their time working on prosecuting not changing the guidelines so the government could prosecute.

Which suggest to me that the laws and guidelines read that if something isn’t explicitly said then it isn&#039;t illegal.

Of course, there may be other laws that explicitly exempt the Internet but again, I&#039;m not a lawyer so I don&#039;t know the intricacies of all these laws and guidelines.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen,</p>
<p>As I said in response to your other similar message, the FTC&#8217;s actions seem to show that they feel that existing guidelines are inadequate to go after Internet Marketers.</p>
<p>Otherwise I would think they&#8217;d be spending their time working on prosecuting not changing the guidelines so the government could prosecute.</p>
<p>Which suggest to me that the laws and guidelines read that if something isn’t explicitly said then it isn&#8217;t illegal.</p>
<p>Of course, there may be other laws that explicitly exempt the Internet but again, I&#8217;m not a lawyer so I don&#8217;t know the intricacies of all these laws and guidelines.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Freeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]So while there is no ruling yet I strongly urge you to be ahead of the curve and make the necessary changes now.[/quote]

Do not depend on this type of thinking!! You are already &quot;behind the curve&quot;.

This type of misinformation and bad advice is just what should be targeted.

The FTC has never explicitly excluded the “New Media” from this. Non-disclosure has been illegal in the US, regardless of the media used, for quite some time.

Many other Con-Artist like tactics used by internet marketers are just as illegal, it may be time to clean up. The current administration is going to need every revenue source it can find.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]So while there is no ruling yet I strongly urge you to be ahead of the curve and make the necessary changes now.[/quote]</p>
<p>Do not depend on this type of thinking!! You are already &#8220;behind the curve&#8221;.</p>
<p>This type of misinformation and bad advice is just what should be targeted.</p>
<p>The FTC has never explicitly excluded the “New Media” from this. Non-disclosure has been illegal in the US, regardless of the media used, for quite some time.</p>
<p>Many other Con-Artist like tactics used by internet marketers are just as illegal, it may be time to clean up. The current administration is going to need every revenue source it can find.</p>
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		<title>By: Are the New FTC Rules the Death of Internet Marketing? &#124; From The Desk of David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Are the New FTC Rules the Death of Internet Marketing? &#124; From The Desk of David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Are the New FTC Rules the Death of Internet Marketing?  Posted by David on Oct 7, 2009 in Other Stuff &#124; Subscribe  Hello there! If you are new here, you might want to subscribe to the RSS feed for updates on this topic.A couple of months ago I wrote a couple of blogs post about the FTC investigations that could have implications on Internet Marketers; see You May Be at Risk, Don’t Let the FTC Shut You Down, Part 1 and You May Also Be at Risk for This, Don’t Let the FTC Shut You Down, Part 2. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Are the New FTC Rules the Death of Internet Marketing?  Posted by David on Oct 7, 2009 in Other Stuff | Subscribe  Hello there! If you are new here, you might want to subscribe to the RSS feed for updates on this topic.A couple of months ago I wrote a couple of blogs post about the FTC investigations that could have implications on Internet Marketers; see You May Be at Risk, Don’t Let the FTC Shut You Down, Part 1 and You May Also Be at Risk for This, Don’t Let the FTC Shut You Down, Part 2. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 03:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MAtt,

Thanks.

I know what you mean about making the fine print so light.  Sets off alarms immediately!

I just highlight it with my mouse and then it really easy to read :-)

Good luck with you site.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MAtt,</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>I know what you mean about making the fine print so light.  Sets off alarms immediately!</p>
<p>I just highlight it with my mouse and then it really easy to read <img src='http://fromthedeskofdavid.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Good luck with you site.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David,

I accidentally happened upon your site while researching information about membership sites on google. I&#039;m glad I did. Looks like you provide some great information here and I&#039;m happy to find other marketers that don&#039;t try to HIDE the facts of what their offer REALLY is. I&#039;ve personally been very close to being duped into forced continuity programs quite a few times when trying to get a free download or another. Fortunately, I&#039;m the kind of person that DOES read the FINE print (even when it&#039;s grayed out so lightly you have to strain your eyes to see it - I hate that).

And YES, you can definitely run a forced continuity program through PayPal. Many scripts do this for you these days. In fact, that&#039;s exactly why I was researching membership sites myself as I have a few scripts which allow for &quot;trial&quot; memberships. While I love these features, I wanted to check into all the legalities before launching a site of my own. Fortunately, I don&#039;t see any problem with what I plan on doing since members will know up front that the trial membership is just that, a TRIAL and they will be billed a monthly priced IF and ONLY IF, they choose NOT to cancel their subscription. 

No tricks or gimmicks on my end. I hate it when people do it to me so I would never do it to others.

Thanks for such an informative blog.

Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>I accidentally happened upon your site while researching information about membership sites on google. I&#8217;m glad I did. Looks like you provide some great information here and I&#8217;m happy to find other marketers that don&#8217;t try to HIDE the facts of what their offer REALLY is. I&#8217;ve personally been very close to being duped into forced continuity programs quite a few times when trying to get a free download or another. Fortunately, I&#8217;m the kind of person that DOES read the FINE print (even when it&#8217;s grayed out so lightly you have to strain your eyes to see it &#8211; I hate that).</p>
<p>And YES, you can definitely run a forced continuity program through PayPal. Many scripts do this for you these days. In fact, that&#8217;s exactly why I was researching membership sites myself as I have a few scripts which allow for &#8220;trial&#8221; memberships. While I love these features, I wanted to check into all the legalities before launching a site of my own. Fortunately, I don&#8217;t see any problem with what I plan on doing since members will know up front that the trial membership is just that, a TRIAL and they will be billed a monthly priced IF and ONLY IF, they choose NOT to cancel their subscription. </p>
<p>No tricks or gimmicks on my end. I hate it when people do it to me so I would never do it to others.</p>
<p>Thanks for such an informative blog.</p>
<p>Matt</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ian,

I went and watched your video. Nicely done and well thought out, thanks for putting in the link to it.

Personally, I&#039;m not opposed to forced continuity but I am VERY opposed to hiding it, either non-existent or in small print at the bottom.

If a product/offer isn&#039;t good enough to support the being upfront about the forced continuity being part of the &quot;cost&quot; then the person needs to fix that problem not try to trick people into signing up.

Thanks again for the link to the video.

David

P.S. By the way, I&#039;m pretty sure you can set up a forced continuity system with PayPal but I do agree with you it is so much easier to cancel a PayPal subscription than the other options, particularly with the recent user interface change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ian,</p>
<p>I went and watched your video. Nicely done and well thought out, thanks for putting in the link to it.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m not opposed to forced continuity but I am VERY opposed to hiding it, either non-existent or in small print at the bottom.</p>
<p>If a product/offer isn&#8217;t good enough to support the being upfront about the forced continuity being part of the &#8220;cost&#8221; then the person needs to fix that problem not try to trick people into signing up.</p>
<p>Thanks again for the link to the video.</p>
<p>David</p>
<p>P.S. By the way, I&#8217;m pretty sure you can set up a forced continuity system with PayPal but I do agree with you it is so much easier to cancel a PayPal subscription than the other options, particularly with the recent user interface change.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Traynor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Traynor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David

Yes, I&#039;ve also blogged and videos against forced continuity. See:

http://www.marketingsparks.com/forced-continuity-is-it-ethical/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;ve also blogged and videos against forced continuity. See:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.marketingsparks.com/forced-continuity-is-it-ethical/" rel="nofollow">http://www.marketingsparks.com/forced-continuity-is-it-ethical/</a></p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 16:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Robin,

You&#039;re very welcome. I&#039;ll be tracking these issues so if I have any updates I let you know.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robin,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re very welcome. I&#8217;ll be tracking these issues so if I have any updates I let you know.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 03:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David ~ thanks for the heads up. I am an ethical business person and I intend to keep it that way. I am planning a couple membership and micro-continuity programs - so this info is extremely timely. 

Thank you very much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David ~ thanks for the heads up. I am an ethical business person and I intend to keep it that way. I am planning a couple membership and micro-continuity programs &#8211; so this info is extremely timely. </p>
<p>Thank you very much!</p>
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